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yet another newbie..
by ragnarok75 ini've been lurking here for some time and now that i've registered here's a little bit about myself... i'm in northern europe (so english is not my own language,but i have indeed studied it for more than 18 months) and i was born into this hateful cult in the "momentuous" year of -75.good that my parents stayed alive till then!.
as far back as i can remember i had doubts both about the doctrines and the whole existence of god.however,i instinctively knew that these doubts are not to be mentioned.so i learned to be a fake at an early age.though having read many other stories here i realise how easy i got it.i now understand that we lived in a rather liberal area and also my family was quite liberal eventhough my dad was an elder since mid -80 and mom was really "strong in the truth".i never brought up the religion at school or with friends and was never bullied or anything.it helped that i was good at sports,especially football (soccer for americans) and football is also the source of my biggest hurt in childhood.i know it may sound very trivial,but the fact that i wasn't allowed to join a football team felt just so unjust and painfull and it lasted all through my childhood.whenever we had a new gym teacher,the first thing he asked me was which team do i play for.i was too embarrased to tell the truth and i just gave the impression that i only wanted to play for fun and not join any team.oh,how badly i wanted to!.
somehow i managed to silence all those doubts and got babtised as a young man.very soon after the babtism i knew that it didn't have the hoped for effect of making me more spiritual and meetings and field service still felt an absolute bore.now began the long years of just "going through the motions".all my family (parents,many brothers and sisters,uncles and aunts,nieces and nephews) and most of my friends were in.i never reached out and attended only one or two meetings a week and penned my hours.i kind of liked my congregation (also,the seats at our kh were really comfy,so i often slept through the meetings) and made some very good friends.friends that - as you all can guess- didn't turn out to be so good in the end,but with whom i nonetheless had some good times and felt a strong connection to.. for a long time nothing happened that would've disrupted my rather non-eventfull life as a lacklustre jdub with at least another foot in the "world".i'd done many things that would've gotten me d'fed,but i never had any intentions of going to the elders about it and i had no pangs of conscience about it either.it was just a matter of convenience..i liked my witness friends,wanted to hold on to them and not to lose my family.. however..there was this girl... a (worldly,of course) girl that i had absolutely fell for and had a brief romance with many years ago.now she was back in my life.i must omit the proceeding turns of events for the sake of anonymity,but the end result is that i'm a proud father of a lovely baby girl.well,not so much baby anymore as she starts school soon.i love her so much and it gives me great satisfaction that she is growing free from any influence of vicious cults or of any gods for that matter.we live now in different countries but i see her often and there's always skype.. her birth also acted as a catalyst for the change in relationship between me and the society.i decided that i wanted to share the joy of her birth and existence with my family,eventhough i also knew that that would mean i'd have to go the elders too.if i didn't,they would,and that would result in automatic disfellowshippping.. a jc was duly formed and i had decided that i'm not going to go there and tell them that i regret her,as having her is the best thing that's ever happeded to me.
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did I see jesus?
by Tylinbrando inso we have had a bit of rain today.
but the sun peeked out and was setting to the west.
i stepped out to the front yard and saw on the top of the foothills at least 10 miles away what appeared to be a burning cross.
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dazed but not confused
You in Colorado? It sounds like your describing the foothills along the Rocky Mountains and today we had rain and then it cleared up before sundown.
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Ohh the memories... Memorial of Jebus...
by dazed but not confused ini don't miss this.
i feel so sad for those of you still going thru this.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75tfwzx4b5y.
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dazed but not confused
Glad I could help!
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Love Thy Neighbor? Not my JW neighbors.
by jws ini live next to jw neighbors.
i was a jw 1000 miles away over 20 years ago, never here.
as far as i know, nobody here knows i once was, including the neighbors.. so there wouldn't be any reason for them to shun me.
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dazed but not confused
I would ignore my neighbors when I was a JW. I think it was because I didn't want to become overly friendly with worldlies. I don't know why. Just a wierd quirk. Now I talk and laugh with my neighbors. They tend to isolate themselves from anyone not a JW. But yeah, If a neighbor did this for me I would definatly have told them thank you at the very least.
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Love Thy Neighbor? Not my JW neighbors.
by jws ini live next to jw neighbors.
i was a jw 1000 miles away over 20 years ago, never here.
as far as i know, nobody here knows i once was, including the neighbors.. so there wouldn't be any reason for them to shun me.
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Backing away slowly....
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Birthdays & Christmas
by Rattigan350 inwhat is the deal with people criticizing jws because they don't celebrate birthdays or christmas?.
it is as if when someone is born, from a baby, to a child, teen, adult; that one has a responsiblity to celebrate christmas (and i thought it was a free country); and others have a responsiblity to celebrate others' anniversary of one's birth.. i don't get the criticisms as if celebrating either is a great thing and the not celebrating is a bad thing.. data on star trek said that he does not understand why people celebrate their birthdays - a day one can not possibly remember.. what are you actually celebrating?
the fact that you made it another year?
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dazed but not confused
If you not like birthdays why talk about it?
Clearly it bothers you that no one bothered to show you the fun of.... oh nevermind. Have fun with your pitty party
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Birthdays & Christmas
by Rattigan350 inwhat is the deal with people criticizing jws because they don't celebrate birthdays or christmas?.
it is as if when someone is born, from a baby, to a child, teen, adult; that one has a responsiblity to celebrate christmas (and i thought it was a free country); and others have a responsiblity to celebrate others' anniversary of one's birth.. i don't get the criticisms as if celebrating either is a great thing and the not celebrating is a bad thing.. data on star trek said that he does not understand why people celebrate their birthdays - a day one can not possibly remember.. what are you actually celebrating?
the fact that you made it another year?
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dazed but not confused
Data from Startrek? Nerd alert!!!... Just kidding. Im a bit of a Trekkie.
JW's are criticized because they are soooooooooo unbelievably stupid in most every aspect of their lifes. I would know. Born and raised and out after 28 years. I didn;t know any better until I left.
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Birthdays & Christmas
by Rattigan350 inwhat is the deal with people criticizing jws because they don't celebrate birthdays or christmas?.
it is as if when someone is born, from a baby, to a child, teen, adult; that one has a responsiblity to celebrate christmas (and i thought it was a free country); and others have a responsiblity to celebrate others' anniversary of one's birth.. i don't get the criticisms as if celebrating either is a great thing and the not celebrating is a bad thing.. data on star trek said that he does not understand why people celebrate their birthdays - a day one can not possibly remember.. what are you actually celebrating?
the fact that you made it another year?
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dazed but not confused
You seem bitter. I just celebrated my son's 4th Bday and he LOVED it. It was my first time celebrating anyone's birthday. Lots of gifts and fun. The dumbass JW's want to stand out as different. Thats why no BDays. Theres really no good reason not to celebrate them. What because someone got BEHEADED in the bible we shouldnt celebrate them? What about anniversaries? I understand their reasoning for the other holidays but I don;t agree. We will be celebrating everything from here on. "To each their own..."
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Ohh the memories... Memorial of Jebus...
by dazed but not confused ini don't miss this.
i feel so sad for those of you still going thru this.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75tfwzx4b5y.
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dazed but not confused
I remember getting the belt or wooden spoon after meetings. I asked my mom a few years ago... "Why did I always get the belt after the meetings?" She said "I don't remember. You were probably just being a normal kid, acting up." Thanks mom. Thats what I get for squirming in my seat? Then she would say "I was a single parent and it was hard"
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Ohh the memories... Memorial of Jebus...
by dazed but not confused ini don't miss this.
i feel so sad for those of you still going thru this.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75tfwzx4b5y.
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dazed but not confused
I don't miss this. I feel so sad for those of you still going thru this.